Nick Tomlinson

mush ado

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I think there are good arguments on both sides (now, who'd have guessed that I'm a Libran?).

In my job, I like to save time/cut corners/avoid unnecessary bureaucracy by phoning people wherever possible, rather than emailing - but it does depend on why I'm contacting them. The dangerous thing about emails, I think, is that the 'tone' depends a great deal on the mood of the person who's reading them - something you think is perfectly cordial can come across as terse and over-bureaucratic if the recipient's in a bad mood.

Emails are great for clarity - if people are prepared to edit them down so there's no waffle - but phones are better for establishing friendly relationships. With emails, of course, you also have a record of your exchange (frankly, I'd be freaked out if people were keeping records of phone conversations .... too Big Brother).

Now, go find me another fence to sit on. Off you go.

You're fast, Libran (spits tobacco). I barely done hit that 'post' button 'fore you caught me square with a reply. Background music: Desperado (note sitting on fences reference).

Maybe it's just that with recruitment agents, nobody wants to be your friend, so attempts at chumminess make you seem slimier than a rock pool.

Howdy bwoy ..

*tips back hat* *which falls off as now does not fit as Libran is pinhead after haircut*

With charity fundraisers, nobody really wants to be your friend either - but at least we have the guilt factor on our side, I guess.

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(gasps). It's Duellin' Pog Shortilocks!

Say, um, are you happy with the job they did on your hair?

Sorry, no decent way to make that sound Wild West.

Guilt, eh? So that's the secret...

Yur durn tootin' right *hawks*

The crop's just fine - as long as my hair takes less than 30 secs to dry in the morning that's fine. Nobody seems to mind me looking like a startled meerkat. Not much, anyway.

Yup. Guilt. Works every time.

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The name of the game is efficiency. E-mails save time. There's no doubt about that. Business has never been about intimacy so to feel wrong about only interacting with someone having two chunks of hardware and a thousand miles between you shouldn't matter. In a face-to-face meeting, the distance between the person you're meeting and their real personality is greater than that anyways. With e-mails, you don't have to brush your teeth in the morning.

The only downside to e-mails are miscommunication. We pick up a great deal of our conversational cues from the body language of the individual we're speaking to, and that dimension of interaction is obviously lost when e-mailing. Big deal. The bottom line is always the bottom line. E-mails are efficient for businesses, and I don't think I've met a businessman (or woman) that didn't like to save time and be efficient.

In a face-to-face meeting, the distance between the person you're meeting and their real personality is greater than that anyways.

Spot on.

We pick up a great deal of our conversational cues from the body language of the individual we're speaking to, and that dimension of interaction is obviously lost when e-mailing.

That's why I prefer emails... Nobody gets to know that I'm a socially awkward pleb.

They do now, obviously.

Also, don't you just hate having to hold a smile on your face while talking to someone? Smiling gives me the look of someone trying to hold still while a tarantula crawls through his hair.

Afraid they don't tend to save that much time for me - I spend far too much of my life chasing people for answers to emails. Again, downside of working for a charity, I guess. I've worked in the diplomatic service, publishing, lobbying and the corporate sector and now for a charity. I've never met such an unbusinesslike bunch as I have since I've worked here. Mind you, the front-line staff have tough jobs and the pay is far from generous - but when was the last time you worked for an organisation where offices close down completely between 1 and 2 pm? By and large nobody within the organisation seems to be able to prioritise in any sane fashion and getting answers out of people is like wading through treacle.

Fortunately for me, most of my job involves working with people outside the organisation, as a fundraiser - but even then, I spend half my life chasing responses and end up on the phone.

Oops. Sorry. Slipped into rant mode there. It's been a bit of a frustrating day.

Sort of defeats the object if you have to phone people to remind them to read your emails, doesn't it?

Sorry you're having a bad 'un. Sounds like you deserve something chocolatey.

=:+ (a sympathy rabbit)

Oh they read them - they just don't respond. But yes, it does.

I have eaten approx my bodyweight in muffins and cake today - for charity again, of course. Ahem.

Very cute. But a rabbit? Really? Such innocence .... bless.

Also, we at HTS don't want to be seen, heard, smelled or touched. Because we're all heavily tattooed circus runaways.

Curious office culture....that'd make a great sitcom. I'm laughing just thinking about it.

I can barely keep myself from giving away our idea for an HTS youtube video... it's so good!
It’s a pity recorded voice messages never caught on online. I even have voice recognition and, like a mug, I still type my messages.

Recorded voice messages? That one passed me by. I'm still waiting for the whole Star Trek thing to become standard. Or holograms! Or the use of projected astral doubles.

How good is today's voice recognition technology? Can it deal with homonyms and mumbling?

On my Eudora there’s some feature to include PureVoice messages with email. Never worked out how that worked, plus this was back in the day when sending an attachment over 35 kbyte was bad form.
Today’s VR is not bad. It’s actually standard on Windows XP, but few people turn the feature on. The program I have is reasonably good but better if you speak with an American accent. It will not pick up ‘August’, only ‘Ahgust’. Since my accent is alcohol-dependent (southern when sober, Manchester after four betters, Edinburgh after three whiskies), it is a problem.
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Since my accent is alcohol-dependent (southern when sober, Manchester after four betters, Edinburgh after three whiskies), it is a problem.

Har!

There's a definite gap in the market for a VR package that you can set to 'Slur'.

There's a definite gap in the market for a VR package that you can set to 'Slur'.

I'm sure they have that on the newer Macs.

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Excellent! 'With all the functionality you need for your work as a blind-drunk jeans-wearing digital agency web optimiser just back from your liquid lunch of the day.'

Yes, I have Mac envy.

I think you profiled the average Mac user pretty well here...LOL.
Yes, have to agree. I was just telling an acquaintance a couple of days ago when he was interpreting the intent behind a girlfriend's msn chat and emails. I basically told him that communication is more in the tone than the words and that he did not have enough data to conclude on her intent.


It's weird... if you know someone really well, you can often pick up the subtextual 'tone' of an email. At other times, emails are emotionally inscrutible. I think that in business this inscrutibility is fine, since you're trying to keep things functional; in close relationships it can lead you into all sorts of mischief. Having said that, most of the times I say something idiotic, it's because I feel under pressure to say something. With email, there's not so much pressure to fill gaps.

When I was a boy I thought that by the year 1999, scientists, having successfully colonised Mars, would turn their attention to discovering the secret of telepathy. How wrong I was, thank God.

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